There are civilized individuals in the world now, surely. But they must have turned their back on the world or have been marginalized by the demonic powers that be.
Look at the view count in China.
Lots of engagement. One commenter asked what Civilization was. Sir Kenneth Clark, who a famous TV series, said he couldn’t define it, but he knew it when he saw. Seeing Plato and Aristotle he would say they were civilized men. So were P&A the product of Ancient Greece or did they make Ancient Greece?
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